Vance knows his First Amendment history:
— James Baird (@james_d_baird) October 30, 2025
states had the power to establish religion
see chapter 6 of “King of Kings”
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J.D. Vance Gets It Right On Church And State
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Great answer Mr. Vice President.
Yes, it was, Fred. He once again proves himself to be adept and excellent speaking extemporaneously. He is also correct with the substance of his response.
I’m thankful for the depth of Vance’s knowledge.
The state of Massachusetts had an established church in 1790 [time of Bill of Rights passage]. Each town of any size was required to have a Congregational Church. Any citizen not attending at least once/quarter was fined 10 shillings. Theatrical entertainment was also illegal.
Those are pretty tough conditions, J. Sobran. Obviously, the First Amendment never changed; and the established state churches “went away” over time, although not because they were unconstitutional at the national level. It obviously ought to be possible to strike a better balance.
I’ve heard the argument that the Amendments jabbed through after Lincoln’s War applied the Bill of Rights to the states, but I don’t know the ins and outs of it.
There is so much about the Constitution ignored. It intentionally outlawed paper money. 5th Amendment says you can’t take someone’s life without due process. But the CIA can and does kill anyone they want to. The President does it too and funds Israel’s frequent killing.
You are definitely right about the Constitution being routinely ignored. This ought to be regarded as a red-hot emergency, but it has been an intrinsic part of the system for the better part of a century, at least.