We have written here about Stephen Wolfe before. He is probably the most prominent advocate for Christian Nationalism in the country. There are others, but Wolfe made a huge splash with his book several years ago.
Kevin DeYoung is a Matthews, NC pastor who leads the Presbyterian Church in America. This had historically been a theologically orthodox denomination but has taken a bit of a left turn during recent years. DeYoung is an “elite” evangelical, having also been associated with the Gospel Coalition. He is not a cultural conservative. Indeed, he seems to be one of those that Pastor Joe Rigney characterizes as making statements under the influence of a “progressive gaze”.
DeYoung wrote a recent article that took shots at Christian Nationalism. Wolfe– who also lives in North Carolina– just did a podcast responding to the article.
The podcast is lengthy. But for those who choose to watch part of it, or its entirety, you will note that Wolfe thinks deeply and cares passionately about the way the country has turned. He says that his concern is for his children. He reaches back in church history to buttress his arguments. In the process of responding to DeYoung, he explicates some of the intellectual rot and the dearth of leadership that exists among ministers and within the various denominations.
Wolfe picks apart DeYoung’s arguments with precision. He might be a bit difficult to follow in parts, but the message rings through:
My response to Kevin DeYoung's article on Classical Protestant politics… I mean, Christian nationalism. pic.twitter.com/0k53fZljPA
— Stephen Wolfe (@PerfInjust) December 16, 2025
Wolfe’s two hour theses weren’t nailed to the church door but handed out freely for those who choose to listen.
Wolfe is correct when he scolds liberals and liberalism. He delves deeply into what divides us into 50-50 camps.
Yes, the best part comes at the end.
Fred, I think this guy is taking an admirable stand. I appreciate what he is doing. It is time for the church to stop clutching its pearls, and instead do what is right.